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Not tempted by the iPhone 17? The iPhone 16 just got a price drop.

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As expected, Apple announced the iPhone 17, iPhone 17 Pro, and iPhone 17 Pro Max models during its not-quite-so ‘Awe Dropping’ event. The new iPhone lineup comes with tons of updates, including a bump in specs, 120 Hz displays across the lineup, and one extremely eye-catching shade of orange. Even better, the new iPhones arrived without significant price increases, which isn't always the case in the tariff era.

However, while the eyes of the tech world were on the iPhone 17, some of last year's iPhone 16 models received a price drop at the Apple store.

Judging by the internet's instant reaction, a lot of people are disappointed by the iPhone 17. So, if you've been eagerly awaiting the iPhone launch event so you could finally upgrade your smartphone, then the iPhone 16 just got a lot more attractive.

Apple lowers prices on the iPhone 16 and 16 Plus

Here are the updated prices for the iPhone 16 line:

  • iPhone 16 – $699 (was $799)

  • iPhone 16 Plus – $799 (was $899)

  • iPhone 16 Pro – $999

  • iPhone 16 Pro Max – $1,199

  • iPhone 16e – $599

Sadly, the price drops are reserved for the iPhone 16 and 16 Plus. All of the prices shown are for the starter 128GB models except for the iPhone 16 Pro Max, which starts with 256GB of storage.

Now, let’s take a look at the base pricing for the iPhone 17:

  • iPhone 17 – $799

  • iPhone 17 Pro – $1,099

  • iPhone 17 Pro Max – $1,199

  • iPhone 17 Air – $999

Interestingly, the iPhone 17 and iPhone 16 both launched with a $799 price, but the iPhone 17 starts with 256GB of storage, so you're actually getting double the storage for the same price.

This year, there's no iPhone 17 Plus, and the new ultra-thin iPhone 17 Air is $100 more than the Plus from 2024. Lastly, while it looks like the iPhone 17 Pro Max arrived with a price increase of $100, that's not technically true. This year, Apple eliminated the 128GB version of the Pro Max, and with greater memory comes greater pricing. The 256GB version of the iPhone 16 Pro Max costs the same as the iPhone 17 Pro Max.

The most interesting price, however, is for the iPhone 17 Air. It shares the A19 Pro chip with the iPhone 17 Pro models, and despite having Pro-level specs (though not Pro-level cameras), its $999 price tag is surprisingly appealing.

What do you lose if you stick with the iPhone 16?

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The new iPhone 17 Pro and 17 Pro Max on display at Apple Park.
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The iPhone 17 does have some worthwhile upgrades, particularly the base model. All of the new iPhones now come with 120 Hz displays, a feature that was reserved for most Android phones and the higher-tier Pro models until this year. The iPhone 17 gets the new A19 chip, and the Pro models get the A19 Pro, which Apple promises offers better performance. (Apple says it's the fastest mobile phone processor ever constructed.)

Included also with these new iPhones is a return to aluminum, a 3,000-nit screen with Apple’s Ceramic Shield 2, and significant camera upgrades. If you're serious about photography, you'll lose out on the new 18-megapixel Center Stage front camera on the iPhone 17. The flagship models also offer better cameras, with three 48-megapixel cameras on the back.

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Tesla loses major executives, including Cybertruck chief

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Tesla is having a very tough year. Sales are down, the brand has been tarnished in the eyes of some customers by its CEO Elon Musk, tax credit incentives that brought in consumers have now expired — what else can go wrong?

How about two major program managers leaving the company in a single day?

On Monday, two Tesla executives who headed up major product initiatives separately announced that they were leaving the company: One who leads the Cybertruck program and one who leads the Model Y program.

Siddhant Awasthi, head of Tesla's Cybertruck program, announced on LinkedIn early Monday morning that he was departing the company. Awasthi's story is inspiring, as he first joined Tesla eight years ago and worked his way up the company ladder to finally head up Musk's vision for an EV truck.

"I recently made one of the hardest decisions of my life to leave Tesla after an incredible run," the now-former Cybertruck chief wrote on LinkedIn. "Eight years ago, when I started as an intern, I never dreamed I’d one day have the opportunity to lead the Cybertruck program and bring it to reality."

It's unclear why Awasthi has left the company and, based on his post, it does appear to be on good terms.

However, Cybertruck has certainly not lived up to Tesla's expectations. As The Verge notes, a recent Cybertruck recall notice from the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration shows that only 63,619 Cybertrucks have been sold since the vehicle's launch in 2023. Musk once bet that the future of Tesla depended on the company selling 250,000 Cybertruck vehicles per year. Tesla is nowhere close to doing that. In fact, interest in the Cybertruck has waned since the company claimed that it received 250,000 pre-order deposits in 2019.

Awasthi was later joined in his departure from the company by Emmanuel Lamacchia, the head of Tesla's Model Y program.

"After 8 incredible years, I'm moving on from Tesla," Lamacchia wrote on LinkedIn. "What a journey it's been… from leading NPI for Model 3 and Model Y variants to becoming the Vehicle Program Manager for Model Y, the best-selling car in the world!"

Lamacchia, who was the Model Y chief for the past four years, did lead the team behind Tesla's most successful vehicle. So, again, it does not appear any of these departures were performance-based.

If anything, it is concerning that Tesla is losing two talented leaders at the tail end of what has been a tumultuous year for the company. Pair these departures with Tesla's sales numbers and the recent news that Tesla is now looking to roll out a rental car service for Tesla vehicles, and it looks like Tesla could be in for a very bumpy 2026 as well.

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Joyce Carol Oates owned Elon Musk on his own app. Now he’s mad, and the memes are great.

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You'd be forgiven if you didn't know that acclaimed octogenarian author Joyce Carol Oates — author of Them and Where Are You Going, Where Have You Been — is a prolific, excellent poster. Yes, as in someone who posts online. But she is, and has long been.

Billionaire Elon Musk recently discovered this fact on X, his very own platform. And now he's beefing with Oates, or at least trying to prove he is definitely Not Mad. So…what happened? Let me explain.

Why is Elon Musk mad at author Joyce Carol Oates?

In short, Oates surgically owned Musk on X. She quote-tweeted a post about Musk and wondered what joy or meaning he derived from life.

She wrote:

"So curious that such a wealthy man never posts anything that indicates that he enjoys or is even aware of what virtually everyone appreciates— scenes from nature, pet dog or cat, praise for a movie, music, a book (but doubt that he reads); pride in a friend’s or relative’s accomplishment; condolences for someone who has died; pleasure in sports, acclaim for a favorite team; references to history. In fact he seems totally uneducated, uncultured. The poorest persons on Twitter may have access to more beauty & meaning in life than the 'most wealthy person in the world.'"

It was a devastating read on the world's richest man. It quickly went very viral. Musk didn't love it. He posted about it because Musk posts constantly. He called it "demonstrably false." He said, "Oates is a liar and delights in being mean. Not a good human." He claimed, "Eating a bag of sawdust would be vastly more enjoyable than reading the laboriously pretentious drivel of Oates."

You know what they say about which dogs holler and why.

What's the latest with the Musk vs. Oates beef?

To be clear, of course, there have been instances of Musk saying he enjoyed things in culture. Journalist Ronan Farrow this year spoke about how Musk appreciates — and often greatly misreads — science fiction.

But if you parse through Musk's timeline, you do see a picture of someone who mostly posts to boost his companies, air grievances, and shitpost about political stuff. It'd be super weird to see him posting about Monday Night Football or Taylor Swift's new album. (Though, he did post about Swift's private jet and offered to father a child for her. So…yeah.)

But since the Oates debacle, Musk seemed hell-bent on proving he likes stuff, which is kind of funny in and of itself. He's been replying to posts about movies, just saying things like "good movie." People have been joking about Oates, 87, getting to Musk, especially on left-leaning Bluesky.

Joyce Carol Oates owned Elon so hard he's spent the last day posting about movies he hasn't seen in 15 years

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— Razzball (@razzball.bsky.social) November 10, 2025 at 11:31 AM

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— leon (@leyawn.bsky.social) November 10, 2025 at 2:45 PM

Joyce Carol Oates just pulverized him, didn’t she?

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— Helen Kennedy (@helenkennedy.bsky.social) November 10, 2025 at 1:49 PM

one of the funniest parts about Joyce Carol Oates going viral for nuking Elon Musk is that he absolutely needed someone tell him who Joyce Carol Oates is

— Godspeed You! Bluesky Emperor (@andrewpaul.bsky.social) November 10, 2025 at 3:29 PM

late to this but i feel like an underrated part of the musk meltdown over joyce carol oates accusing him of not reading is this musk reply that makes it clear he has never read anything by joyce carol oates

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— Will Oremus (@willoremus.com) November 10, 2025 at 4:31 PM

For the uninitiated, Oates has long been a True Poster. There are articles about it. She's even put her foot in her mouth multiple times, a sign of someone who simply cannot help posting online. (Speaking of, please don't search "Joyce Carol Oates' foot" — she once tweeted a truly gross, super viral picture of her foot overtaken by poison ivy. Again, a True Poster.)

Since the original post, Oates has intermittently posted about Musk, while also discussing literature and cats. "Truly, it was out of curiosity: why a person with unlimited resources exhibits so little appreciation or even awareness of the things that most people value as giving meaning to life," Oates wrote.

So, it's actually not that weird that an Oates vs. Musk beef popped up this week. But it is great entertainment.

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Amazon is selling like-new Kindle Scribes for a record-low price ahead of Black Friday

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SAVE $126: A like-new Amazon Kindle Scribe (64GB) is on sale at Amazon for $278.99, down from the normal price of $404.99. That's a 31% discount and the lowest we've ever seen at Amazon.



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The darkness has arrived. When we pushed the clocks back, sunset moved up by an hour and that means it's completely dark by 5 p.m. for much of the U.S. If that leaves you feeling ready for bed by 6 p.m., you've probably considered cozying up on the couch with a good book. If you're one to take notes while reading this month's book club pick, there's a certain Kindle with features you'll like and it's on sale today.

As of Nov. 10, a like-new Kindle Scribe (64GB) is on sale for $278.99 at Amazon, marked down from the usual price of $404.99. That works out to a 31% discount that takes a nice $126 off the norm. It's also the lowest we've ever seen at Amazon. The current model of the Kindle Scribe with 64GB of storage is listed at $449.99 which means today's refurbished deal saves $171.

Kindles are some of the best e-readers on the market and buying a refurbished model is a great way to dive into e-books on a discount. On Mashable's list of the best Kindles, the 2024 version of the Kindle Scribe earns the top spot as the best model for taking notes. That applies for both students, professionals, and casual readers. Students can take advantage of note-taking in the margins of class-assigned books and even textbooks. Book-club members will be able to mark favorite sections and important passages for discussion.

The Kindle Scribe comes with a Premium Pen for all your note-taking desires. You can also access PDFs and documents on the Kindle Scribe, as well as books, so you'll be in great shape for marking up any text.

Amazon equipped the Scribe with an anti-glare display that measures 10.2 inches. Its thin dimensions and lightweight nature makes this a travel-friendly device that'll be great for taking to campus, to a work meeting, or on upcoming holiday travel.

While it's sitting at an all-time low price, snag a refurbished 64GB Kindle Scribe that's in like-new condition. Amazon offers the same warranty on this model as it does on new Scribes. They also upgrade software and test the battery, giving you extra reassurance when buying a pre-loved model.

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